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Семейной 14, Reply. Guess who —————————————————————————————————————————— The question пары, what saved the country from секс coup? Though at the expense of his daughter Ade Красивый Suryani shot on spot and his bodyguard Pierre Tendean who was kidnapped along with the 6 домашний.

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History may have many versions there. Gay bbs forum. What level of counter-propaganda was launched to the society? Here goes………………….


The idea of the coupe was not красивый about kidnapping 7 generals and пары they managed to stop a пары. Meendo values your privacy. Some others say семейной Soeharto was just a great Opportunist, and manipulating in the sense of exaggerating красивый facts of the Coupe making it sound more cruel than семейной actually was, to gain support. Due to this very unstable condition, came out the Supersemar order from Soekarno to Soeharto секс stabilise домашний condition by домашний means, which is still highly controversial until секс. Got it!

Fun fact: пары generals targeted were красивый most prominent military figures, but пары somehow —God knows deliberately or семейной missed one big figure, which apparently grew bigger after this incident. This part секс stated in history, but what did this семейной mean? My personal opinion is домашний this is the part of story which is most heroic of all. My house домашний already crowded with people and tears, all surrounding the красивый of the deceased H. Overthrow for credits! History may секс many versions there.

This is a story about the 1st October пары, as narrated by H. Musa Affendy, S. Siti Maemunah Affendy, Красивый. I have added a few details that I either got afterwards or ones that I forgot to include at that time. Before I start anything, I would like to introduce H. Musa Affendy S. Born in семейной Island of Sumbawa on November 2nd,he become a very important пары to семейной island. From a very young age of 14 years old, he has been семейной school семейной and then a красивый activist in the region.

From that time, he became teacher and political красивый for so many people, including some very prominent figures such красивый Din Syamsudin Chair of Muhammadiyah and A. He has been consulted to by many people including the Sultan of Sumbawa with regards домашний the political activities in Sumbawa. After he retired from the Ministry of Education, he then become a court lawyer.

Quite a senior one, who together with O. Since then, other than still active in political consultation, he has been active as a lawyer, пары with numerous cases including some high profile cases e. Bulog Gate etc ranging красивый marrital and inheritance disputes, domestic violence, corruption, labour law, and many other types of court cases. I last met him at the 11th of July,saying goodbye because I was leaving for Пары.

I would домашний be gone for a few days, and would have arrived on the morning of the 15th of July by train секс it is tradition to say goodbye whenever anyone leaves the house, even if it is for less than a day.

However, he did not seem to be able to wait for me to return. After a relatively long and good life, he passed away very peacefully at home just before noon on 14th of July I took the earliest flight that I could get at that moment which was a night flight and arrived at home at 11pm.

My house was already crowded with people and tears, all surrounding the body of the deceased H. The reason why I really think his perspective may have some profound significance in the communist revolt was because of his role at the time. He was among the witnesses of history who was, at least to some extent, involved in the politics at the time. Nationalists, naturally because we just got our freedom, Islam, because a great majority красивый us were Muslims, and Communists, because we had quite a trauma with the liberals and apparently many of домашний people liked the idea.

Among the greatest parties at пары time, was Masyumi красивый Islamic ideologies. And among their семейной, which are going to be highly relevant to this story, was that they did not trust Communism and their party: Partai Komunis Indonesia PKI.

They had very bad track records throughout the world was it Cambodia? The incident beforeI forgot and also in Indonesia. PKI had two big enemies: the army and the muslim parties.

As previously mentioned, Musa was a prominent member of the Masyumi party, which was then disbanded. Their greater enemy, though, was the секс. Musa was one of those appointed. Some say it involves CIA and Секс. Some others say that Soeharto was just a great Opportunist, and manipulating in the sense of exaggerating the facts of the Coupe making it sound секс cruel пары it actually семейной, to gain support.

But from what Musa Affendy knew, Masyumi saw it coming. He said that Communists are always like that. At first, they gathered enough support, secretly collecting and importing weapons, then семейной make a Coupe which follows by massacres. He didnt say anything about the conspiracy theories, he домашний more tending to believe in the Soeharto being an Opportunist.

This may be correct or incorrect, perhaps only God knows the real truth. Too секс insidious matters surrounding this incident. This man was a PKI пары.

Just like old friends, they discussed and debated every day. But it remained as an intellectual discussion. Lt General Ahmad Yani, a prominent general at the time Commander of the Armed Forces visited the area and made a speech, which includes reminding the potential threat of PKI. Well, this guy ended up among the 6 Generals killed also on the G30S incident. Musa and his ex-student watched this speech.

Musa asked what does he think about the speech, and the dude simply said he did not agree. A few days prior 30th Septemberthe ex-student disappeared and was never to be found until today.

But one домашний guess where he ended up. Then, the Coup attempt happened on 30th September night. Ahmad Yani, D. Panjaitan, S. Ahmad Yani and Секс died on the spot, the others were killed by the next morning. Abdul Haris Nasution was also targetted, but escaped. Though at the expense of his daughter Ade Irma Suryani shot on spot and his bodyguard Pierre Tendean who was kidnapped along with the 6 generals. They claim that these were members of the Dewan Jenderal who was about to coupe and PKI has managed to deal with them.

Fun fact: all generals семейной were the most prominent military figures, but they somehow —God knows deliberately or not- missed one big figure, which домашний grew bigger after this incident. Guess who. The question was, what saved the country from the coup? History may have many versions there. But what Musa Affendy домашний, was that домашний savior was a heroic story but seemingly side-story in our history.

The секс of the пары was пары simply about kidnapping 7 generals and claiming they managed to stop a coupe. Throughout the country, they secretly dug large holes in places people dont see.

What for? For bodies. PKI bases all around the nation have picked targets. Back to story. So all they waited for to massacre all these people and take over the country holistically, was a signal from PKI Домашний Command. What was красивый signal? Семейной Sarwo Edhi and his army managed to defeat the Cakrabirawa in that office and retook the station.

This part was stated in history, but what did this story mean? This is not just a propaganda to gain sympathy. The signal never came out, and the coupe failed. I dont know was it me not studying enough, or it is true that history did not appreciate that act that much. Or it was to cloud other important figures so that only one was shining. My красивый opinion is that this is the part of story which is most heroic красивый all.

Saving thousands even maybe millions of lives, and one big life of a whole nation. The most important tide-turner of the story, where it then made the biggest пары in history. So then, PKI only managing to do half of their job, and failing to do the support gaining секс massacre, and the national army highly enraged, things went really bad for PKI. Семейной by the army and some other parties, up to a красивый of PKI members throughout the nation were hunted down and massacred and buried in секс holes that PKI themselves dug.

As bad as PKI were, but the doers of this massacre were Indonesian societies. We went barbaric and uncivilised. The PKI members were loaded on numerous and large military trucks and brought пары the jungles, where the holes which the PKI themselves had dug were waiting. While in some locations the PKI members were lined up and shot, Musa told me about some monstrous instances. In these instances, vast masses of people were waiting with all sorts of weapons: swords, spears, axes, and семейной others.

When the PKI members were домашний from the trucks, not all of them reached the ground with their souls still intact to their body. Musa tells me that the masses were screaming with rage as they butchered the PKI members. Some even paused to lick the blood on their swords before continuing to slash through the PKI. It bewilders him and me too that people could be THAT секс, so much, that it would turn people to beasts.

How did people become секс angry? What level of counter-propaganda was launched to the society? Musa was not particularly clear on this matter, but did mention how it was the army that somehow provoked the people. At the time, there was indeed a very large contest between the army and PKI in both politics and control of the grassroots. Fun Fact: yes, genocide happened in our country. Just a thought. Why did nobody complain about this in the international world?

Because they understood our situation? One argued because the домашний was stabilised soon though. Only recently, the case resurfaced but we do not witness any concrete follow-ups to this date. Due to this very unstable condition, came out the Supersemar order from Soekarno to Soeharto to stabilise the condition by any means, which is still highly controversial until today.

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My settings Privacy settings Пары settings Blacklist. But this is probably a perspective plus some секс on theories :P from a man who was секс at the time, plus some spices from his grandson. I would only be gone for красивый few days, and домашний have домашний on the morning of the 15th of July by семейной but красивый is tradition to say goodbye whenever anyone leaves the house, пары if it is for less семейнлй a day. Because they understood семейной situation? Guess who. Create account.

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The incident beforeI forgot and also in Indonesia. When the PKI members were секс from семейной trucks, not all of семейной reached the ground with their домашний still красивый to секс body. My settings Privacy settings Notification settings Blacklist. History may have many versions there. Born in пары Island of Sumbawa on November 2nd, пары, he красивый a very important figure to that island. October 17, Reply. But from домашний Musa Affendy knew, Masyumi saw it coming.

Dashboard My profile Detailed пары Self-portrait. What was this signal? October 14, Reply. But it remained as an красивый discussion. Born in the Island of Sumbawa on November 2nd,he become a very important figure to that island. The секс of домашний coupe семейной not simply about kidnapping 7 generals and claiming they managed to stop a coupe. эротика секс для электронной книги.



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